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 In Reply to: So,There is NO Free Will; Is that It? n/t posted by #####
 

.....which had a profound effect on your very own ability to reason. For example, did you choose to enter this world under the sentence of death being forced to sin? No. Adam did that for you.

"Through ONE MAN'S offense judgment came to ALL MANKIND, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in JUSTIFICATION OF LIFE." Rom. 5:18

See? YOU had no choice either way.

Again:

"For God has committed them ALL to disobedience that He might have mercy on all." Rom. 11:32

Again YOU and I are eliminated from the decision whether to be obedient or disobedient.

And again:

"For creation (of which you are a part) was subjected to futility NOT WILLINGLY, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be DELIVERED from its bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God."
Rom. 8:20, 21

Where we live, who are parents are, what time period we were born in, whether we were aborted or not, when we die, what country we are born in all are things outside of our control and they OBVIOUSLY have an effect on the chances of hearing the gospel and from that being "born from above."

So obviously total "free will" is out of the question. Yes, we can make choices, but our choices have been limited greatly regarding the possibility of losing our life eternally. God is MUCH to responsible, wise, and loving to have created a situation in which most of his created beings are forever either endlessly tortured or eternally separated from Him.

The absolute Sovereignty of God is very well established Scripturally. Perhaps you would care to look at some of the more prominent sovereignty of God scriptures. Obviously, if God reserves the right for Himself to be sovereign over AALLL of His creation, then man is also subjected to His sovereignty thus nullifying the mythical "free will" of man.

The Power and Sovereignty of God

Who will transform our lowly body into conformity with His glorious body, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself. Phil. 3:21 NASB

Thou gavest him authority over all mankind. John 17:2 NASB

Jesus didn't lose a single one of those the Father gave Him. John 18:9 NIV

Gates of Hell (Hades) will NOT overcome the church. Matt. 16:18 NEB

There is no other God; there is none like Him. Isaiah 46:9-10

All Israel will be saved. Romans 11:26

God locks all in stubbornness to have mercy on all. Romans 11:32

All out of God, through Him, and into Him. Romans 11:36

Able to subject all to Himself. Phil.3:21

Every knee shall bow to God. Isa.45:23

Every tongue shall confess to God. Isa.45:23

Men predestined. Eph.1:4,5,11

Those appointed to life eonian (eternal life) believe. Acts 13:48

Every knee shall bow. Rom.14:11

Every tongue shall acclaim God. Rom.14:11

Is My hand shortened that it cannot redeem? Isaiah 50:2 NKJV Many Christians think so.

God kills AND makes alive again. 1 Sam. 2:6

He leads captivity captive. Psalm 68:18

He rescues from the depths of Hell (Sheol). Psalm 86:13

Everything God does will endure forever. Eccl. 3:14

He will thoroughly remove our dross and iniquities. Isaiah 1:25 NIV

He will accomplish all that He pleases. Isaiah 46:9-10 NEB

All raged against Him will be put to shame. Isaiah 45:22-24 NIV

Nothing is too hard for Him. Jer. NIV 32:27, 32, 37, 40

I have hardened his heart and the heart of his servants…that you may know that I am the Lord. Ex. 10:1-2 NASB

God hardened his (Pharaoh's) spirit and made his heart obstinate. 1 Sam. 2:6-7 NASB

The Lord kills and makes alive, He brings down to Sheol (hell) and raises up. The Lord makes poor and rich; He brings low, He also exalts. Deut. 2:30 NASB

Power and might are in Thy hand so that no one can stand against Thee. 2 Chron. 20:6 NASB

Thou canst do all things, and that no purpose of Thine can be thwarted. Job 42:2 NASB

His sovereignty rules over all. Psalm 103:19 NASB

Even from eternity I am He; and there is none who can deliver out of My Hand; I act and who can reverse it. Isaiah 43:13 NASB

Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh; is anything too difficult for Me. Jer. 32:27 NASB

Who is there who speaks and it comes to pass, unless the Lord has commanded it? Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both good and evil go forth? Why should any living mortal, or any man, offer complaint in view of his sins? Lam. 3:37-39 NASB

Thus says the Lord God to these bones, "Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life." Ezek. 37:5 NASB

"I will put My spirit within you, and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land. Ezek. 37:14

Tentmaker:
#####, you can truly cast all your cares upon our Sovereign, Just, Loving, Merciful God. He is in perfect control as a perfect loving, caring Father. Peace and Love to you, Gary

Tentmaker

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