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In Reply to: Re: ***** you still didn't answer posted by #####
: : Will God maintain this hell place of sin, which torture surely is? Did He create it? Can God create such a place and keep its fires and suffering burning? What of this God Who is love? Why does the Hebrew Manuscripts never speak of such a god? Hell is not in their Bible? Are they not the chosen and should know these facts?: *** will God maintain the lake of fire? for how long? is He still a God of love if people burn in this lake for 1 year rather than eternity? how 'bout 1 *minute*?
Tentmaker:
Why don'tcha leave the "lake of fire" what it is...a SYMBOL!! The angel told John "These things "sign"ify things which must shortly take place...." Do you believe there really is a seven eyed seven horned lamb in heaven? Or a woman who is also a city sitting on a beast? Those who literalize plain allegories, parables, symbols, twist the word of God to their own destruction. Why are you so lazy? Why don't you LEARN what these symbols mean to the semitic mind? And why don't you have plain Scripturally correct and historically accurate answer to these and many more questions? Could it be that you are MUCH more blind than you lead us to believe? Yes! It could be as simple as that:? Is it the revealed will of God that all men should be saved?
? Can God will all men to be saved, knowing that a part will be forever lost?
? If God has two wills, why is double-mindedness condemned in the Scriptures?
? If God has two wills, why does the Bible say, "He is of one mind?"
? If God has a secret will, how did you gain a knowledge of it?
? Can that be a secret which has been revealed?
? If God revealed His secret will to "the saints," why should they reveal it to "the wicked?"
? If God under any circumstances, wills the endless misery of a human soul, in what does He differ from Satan?
? Can Jesus Christ be the Savior of any more than He actually saves?
? Can Jesus be "the Savior of the world," (1 John 4:14), if the world is not saved by him?
? Is Christ, in any sense, the Savior of unbelievers?
? If Christ is in no sense the Savior of unbelievers, why are unbelievers called upon to believe in Christ as their Savior?
? If unbelievers are not called upon to believe in Christ as their Savior, what are they to believe?
? Must not the thing to be believed, be true before it is believed?
? Must not the thing to be believed continue to be true, whether it be believed or disbelieved?
? "What if some did not believe? Shall their unbelief make the faith, [or faithfulness] of God of none effect?" -- (Rom. 3:3)
? Is it true that "God hath concluded all in unbelief that he might have mercy on all?" -- (Rom 9:32)
? Can God be "especially the Savior of them who believe," unless He is actually the Savior of all? -- (1 Tim. 4:10)
? If belief and good works in this life are essential to eternal salvation in the next, can infants be saved?
? Can the good actions of finite man merit an infinite reward?
? Can the evil actions of finite man merit infinite punishment?
? If men are saved by works, is salvation of grace?
? If one man is saved by grace, why should not all be saved in like manner?? Is God a partial being?
? Can the faith of the Partialists (believers in Hell or annihilation) be based in the wisdom that is "full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality?" -- (James 3:17)
? Can sufficient provision be made for the salvation of all men, if some men are never saved?
? Must not sufficient provision be sufficient to subdue the will of the creature?
? Is there any other way to determine the sufficiency of the means employed, than by the accomplishment of the end designed?? Does not the law of God require all men to love him supremely, and their neighbors as themselves?
? Is it true, that "not one jot or tittle of this law shall pass till all be fulfilled?" -- (Matt. 5:18)
? Does not justice require of us the fulfillment of the law of God?
? Will not justice be eternally violated, if the law of God is not universally fulfilled?
? Can those who are determined eternally damned fulfill the law of love?
? Can justice require the obedience of the sinner, and at the same time require his eternal disobedience?? If "whosoever offereth praise glorifieth God," (Ps. 50:23), can He be glorified by those who have no cause to praise Him?
? If any one is rendered eternally damned, can he have any cause to praise His Maker?
? Will God ever place some of his creatures in such a situation they cannot praise him?
? Do you believe that endless punishment would manifest the glory of God?
? Can you rejoice in the hope of the glory of God?
? Would not the salvation of half of mankind glorify God more than the salvation of one-fourth?
? Would not the salvation of nine-tenths of mankind glorify God more than the salvation of one-half?
? Can we give "glory to God in the highest," without believing in the salvation of all men?
? If "all have sinned, and (thus) come short of the glory of God," (Rom. 3:23), would eternal sinning mend the matter?
? Shall "every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father?" -- (Philippians 2:11)
? Is endless misery "good tidings of great joy which shall be to ALL people?"? Could man be endlessly miserable without being endlessly a sinner?
? If sin exist eternally, can it be true that Christ was to finish the transgression, and to make and end of sin? -- (Dan. 9:34)
? Since Jesus gave himself a ransom for all men, can he ever "see the travail of his soul and be satisfied," if endless misery is true?? Do you hope that endless misery is true?
? Is "faith the substance (or foundation) of things hoped for?" -- (Heb. 11:1)
? If endless misery is not a thing hoped for, can it be a part of the Christian faith?
? Is it certain that one soul will be eternally lost?
? Is it certain that one soul will be saved?
? Is it certain that all will not be damned?
? Is it certain that all will not be saved?
? Can that be certain which is not decreed?
? If it is certain that one soul will be saved, must there not be a decree concerning the salvation of a definite number?
? If the number of the saved is definitely fixed, must not the number of the damned be equally definite?
? If there is no certainty in relation to the final destiny of man, is not salvation a work of chance?
? What is better chance than Atheism?? If God knew, when he created, what the end of each soul would be, is not that end as certain as if it was decreed?
? Is not the merciful man always merciful to his animals?
? Will not the merciful God be always as merciful to His creatures, as the merciful man is to his animals?
? Is it true that the "tender mercies of the Lord are over all his works?" -- (Ps. 145:9)
? Is it true that the Almighty is without variableness, or the shadow of turning?
? Would there be any tender mercy in the infliction of endless misery?
? Are the tender mercies of the Lord like unto the tender mercies of the wicked which are cruel?? If God is not the Father of sinners, why should sinners pray, saying, "Our Father, forgive us our trespasses (sins)?"
? "Have we not all one Father? Hath not one God created us?" -- (Mal. 2:10)
? If God is the Father of all men, will He do less for His children than earthly parents would do for theirs?
? Is it true that God punishes us "for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness?" -- (Heb. 12:11)
? Would endless punishment be for our profit?
? Would endless punishment "yield the peaceable fruits of righteousness unto them who are exercised thereby?"